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2017 Sunday RC Final Talk & Comments About 1975

by baldeagle in

many of us here have commented on the deceitful friday afternoon video shown at the 2017 rc that discussed 1975.. the video attempted to shift the blame onto congregation members for the fiasco saying, "some were looking to a certain date as signifying the end of this old system of things.".

this same video mentions how, “a few even went so far as selling their homes and quitting their jobs.”.

we all know that the wt leadership created this teaching and endorsed it right up to its abject failure.. now below is the concluding talk given on sunday at the rc.

disillusioned 2

My husband for years has always said exactly what the society keep saying, that 'some' 'or a few individuals' were looking to 1975. He always said and still says that those individuals were only in our congregation! We would argue all the time about it. I said all the time that it was in the literature, he denied it. I could not prove it because I did not have any to show him from back then, but I knew I was right and I was annoyed that they kept lying about it.

I can't believe they are so blatantly lying about it again. What this brother is saying will just reaffirm to my husband that he was right and I was wrong.

I stopped going years ago, mainly because certain ones kept denying that the society had ever put in print anything about 1975. There were some other little niggling things too but mainly 1975.

They just continue to lie. Most of them believe every lie they are told.

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A First for Mrs Phizzy !

by Phizzy in

jw
friends

mrs phizzy voted for the first time today !

we have been out for nearly a decade now, but this is the first time mrs phizzy has been persuaded to vote.. she was always afraid that jw's would see her, and then df her for it, i explained (again, we have been over this before) that they would not do so, and my son had a word in her ear too, which did the trick.. she came out of the polling station and said to me "i voted for someone called teresa may, who is she ?".

trying to wind me up, but i knew the wicked witch of westminster was not on our ballot sheet.

disillusioned 2

Congratulations to Mrs Phizzy. I am just on my way to vote. This will be the second time I have voted. I felt the same as she did the first time, and still am nervous about being seen. I have waited for my husband to go to his meeting before I could go.

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Carts Everywhere In Japan!

by disillusioned 2 in

i am on holiday in tokyo at the moment.

before i came my sister informed me that i would see witnesses at the airports and outside all of the train stations.

keeping in touch on facebook she asked me how many witnesses i had seen on my travels.

disillusioned 2

I am on holiday in Tokyo at the moment. Before I came my sister informed me that I would see witnesses at the airports and outside all of the train stations.

Keeping in touch on facebook she asked me how many witnesses I had seen on my travels. I was very happy to report to her that I had seen none!

She seemed very surprised by my answer and said that they had been told that the Japenese witnesses were very zealous and were always out witnessing.

I actually did receive some leaflets today from another religion outside of a train station. I thought the witnesses were the only ones preaching? Still havn't seen any witnesses.

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Uk members ?

by midnight in

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friends

hi anyone from the uk ?

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disillusioned 2

Liverpool

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CO visit... Circuit is not growing at all, he said during midweek meeting

by StarTrekAngel in

so that was a "shocker".

i was not able to attend the meeting.

i had a more important one with my other apostate friends in the area.

disillusioned 2

My husband came back from his one day assembly last week and said "nobody got baptized"! He sounded rather surprised.

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Husband Turns Up With Circuit Overseer And Wife!

by disillusioned 2 in

my husband said he would be gone for the day.

the circuit overseer is at their cong and he trying to get brownie points.

i was just chilling watching tv with a cuppa, when i heard a car outside.

disillusioned 2

Saename

I'm nervous because I dont want to be pressured to "return to Jehovah", to be told how close we are to the end of this system.

I am nervous that after 'successfully' (kind of) just fading into the background and having all my witness family still speaking to me that I may slip up and tell them why I don't believe anymore and get disfellowshipped!

When I first found out about TTATT some years ago I blurted out many things to my family and husband expecting them to see what I could see, but obviously they didn't. After finding out on this forum that that was the wrong way to go about it I stopped speaking about it to them. It is hard sometimes to listen to them coming out with so much rubbish and not coming back at them. But I have learned to do that.

I have just found out when my husband returned home that he had asked the circuit overseer to come to see me, he was going to invite me to the meeting on Sunday. My husband knew I had locked myself in the bathroom so I could not to see him! Quite embarrassing, I had hoped he wouldn't have realised that I had seen him.

After the recent one day assembly my husband is full of it (holy spirit)? lol. I found out this afternoon from my mother, that my husband is pioneering this month! That was the first I had heard about it. He has said nothing to me about it. This from a person who before this managed a couple of hours a month!

Lets hope he doesn't bring the circuit overseer round again this week or I'll be spending quite a bit of time in the bathroom!

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Husband Turns Up With Circuit Overseer And Wife!

by disillusioned 2 in

my husband said he would be gone for the day.

the circuit overseer is at their cong and he trying to get brownie points.

i was just chilling watching tv with a cuppa, when i heard a car outside.

disillusioned 2

My husband said he would be gone for the day. The circuit overseer is at their cong and he trying to get brownie points. I was just chilling watching tv with a cuppa, when I heard a car outside. I looked to see if he was back and saw a man in a suit getting out of a car, I didn't know who he was, because I havn't been for years, then saw my husband and realised who it was. He had brought the circuit overseer and his wife back to ours. I ran up the stairs and hid in the toilet (only room with a lock). My husband came up stairs asked where are you? Then said see you later! He didn't even bring them in. I thought what was that all about? What was the point in coming back with them, not bringing them in, then leaving again? Maybe he realised I wouldn't see them so they left!

Just thought maybe they needed the toilet but it was occupied lol.

Now I'm sitting here nervous they might come back.

(Not in the toilet)!

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"Stay alive until 75"

by Sour Grapes in

this video speaks volumes about watchtower failed prophecies and hyped up dead end promises.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhn6zf1hl2a.

disillusioned 2

This is the prime reason I left. 1975. I got so fed up when I was in that every time I brought it up, people would deny that the society had ever put it in print and that it was just certain ones who got carried away! My husband who wasn't a witness at that time (his mum was) always said it was just a few in our congregation that said it! Nowhere else. I would get annoyed with him and anyone else who denied it.

1975 had a big impact on my life. I left school at age 15 with no qualifications whatsoever, because I believed 1975 was the year Armaggedon was going to happen. Later when I managed to get a job as a typist in a bank, (after going on a course to learn to type) I withdrew from paying into the pension scheme because I wouldn't need it because I wasn't going to get old! I am now 60. They all still deny it and I am still mad for what affect it had on me and thousands of others.

Now a new generation of young people are being coerced into believing this rubbish. I still have a lot of family in but thankfully all of my children are out. Unfortunately not my husband, which causes a lot of problems.

Sourgrapes I too feel very bitter about the whole thing and feel I wasted many years of my life on this falsehood.

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"Inactive" non Attenders, how much power do the JW's have over YOU ?

by Phizzy in

i was thinking about this because of the constant reminders we get in posts that we inactive non attenders have to be careful what we say to jw's, and what we do that they may learn about etc, if we don't wish to be before a j.c. the power they have is limited by what we give them.

now, i do not wish to be declared df'd of da'd, it would kill my old mum i think.. but i refuse to live my life looking over my shoulder, that, in my opinion, is giving them too much power.. i openly vote, i openly donate blood, i enjoy the odd cigar etc etc.. how much power do you allow them to have over you ?.

disillusioned 2

While my husband is a witness and my mother is alive (she is nearly 90) I have to be secretive about what I do. I am only bothered about getting disfellowshipped because of my mum, it would break her heart if she couldn't speak to me. I keep quiet all the time even though I nearly blew it when I first found out TTATT stupidly thinking they would feel the same way as I did about it; they didn't!

I have voted secretly and bought my grown up children presents for their birthdays and christmas. Although they dont really mean anything to me anymore.

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How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75

by dogon in

i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.

disillusioned 2

I would just go to my bookcase and take down the 1968 bound volume, turn to the page that asks "Why Are You Looking Forward to 1975" and put it on table in front of them. After initial shock though they will try to worm their way out of it. This has happened many times.